Ep 23: Finding freedom in uncertainty with Katia Erokhina

“Uncertainty holds so much more freedom than the illusion of control.”

In this heartfelt episode, I sit down with therapist and all-round legend Katia Erokhina to explore how we can find freedom, choice and meaning in life’s messier moments.

🧠 What's This Episode About?

How do we live well when nothing feels certain?

Katia and I dive into the big, raw stuff: what it means to be in process, how therapy can help us meet ourselves more fully and why chasing happiness might not be the goal after all.

We talk about long-term therapy, unearned rest, the pull of perfection and the liberating power of embracing what is.

💬 What We Talk About

✅ Why uncertainty is more honest than control
✅ The gift of staying in therapy long-term
✅ What Katia learned from imperfection
✅ How rest can be allowed, not earned
✅ Finding meaning when things don’t make sense

🧭 Why It Matters

This episode is for anyone who’s felt stuck, tired or like they’ve outgrown the old ways of coping. It’s about choosing to stay open, even when nothing’s clear—and how that choice is where real freedom begins.

🎧 Tune In

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